In a two part conversation, Julissa Arce is first joined by Jin Park. Park is a recent Harvard graduate and a DACA recipient, the first undocumented student to win the Rhodes Scholarship. They discuss their shared experiences of being undocumented in America and what it means for Park if he accepts the invitation to study at Oxford. Julissa is then joined by Kamal Essaheb, Director of Policy and Advocacy at the National Immigration Law Center. They discuss the current DACA battle in the courts and what can be done to challenge Trump on immigration.