This week Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) talked with journalist Eli Saslow (@elisaslow) and Derek Black (@RDerekBlack) about Derek Black’s transformation from a white nationalist to an antiracist activist. They began with current news and what Trump means for the rise of white nationalism into everyday life. Derek then talked about his background growing up as a white nationalist, and what it took for him to change his ideology. They continued with mistakes made by the media and within American culture that contributed to the normalization of white supremacy. They ended with a discussion of what it takes to change someone’s mind, and a sense of hope that it is possible.
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Whether you’re going out to dinner, or sitting at home with a pint of Ben and Jerry’s, Valentine’s Day offers unique problems for everyone. This week, Ana Marie Cox interviews Blythe Roberson to talk about the modern pitfalls of dating men, when sometimes you can’t stand them. Afterwards, Ana sits down with Amy Chozick to talk about the Lorena Bobbitt story, the way we often devalue the stories of women, and how to change her legacy to one of a tabloid feature to one of a survivor.
Double interview feature! First, Dr. Tressie Cottom joins Ana Marie Cox for “the hot take superbowl.” They recap where the Northam debacle in Virginia fits into our historical moment, and discuss Dr. Cottom’s new book THICK: And Other Essays. Then, Ana interviews Erika Christensen about her experience with later abortion, and what it was like to take such a private moment and make it public.
Sarah Smarsh joins Ana Marie Cox to discuss her new book Heartland: A Memoir of Being Broke in the Richest Country on Earth. From not knowing you’re poor, to feeling shame about your social class, Sarah Smarsh covers what growing up white and working class is like.
This week Rick Wilson joins Ana Marie Cox for a discussion on government shutdown. They cover how Trump’s decisions have affected everyone from Congress to the average American citizen. Then, the conversation turned to coping, and how self-care in these times can be macro, like activism, or micro, like sitting on the couch with a loved one. Tune in for your weekly reminder that none of this is normal!
Have you ever cancelled a celebrity? Do you believe you can separate the art from the artist? Do Twitter arguments and trending hashtags matter in the real world? This week Dianna Anderson joins Ana Marie Cox to answer all of these questions, and discuss her new book - Problematic: How Toxic Callout Culture is Destroying Feminism.