Derek Thompson, writer of Work in Progress at The Atlantic and host of Plain English, joins Jon to talk about the future of remote work. Is remote work good or bad? Is it here to stay? How can we make it work for all of us? Derek offers up his perspective, makes the case that “quiet quitting” is a fake trend, and talks about why he’s hopeful that, despite America’s “bad vibes,” we’ll be able to figure this all out.

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