Jon Lovett talks with Steven Pinker about the role of honest argument in our politics and what his new book “Enlightenment Now” can tell us about Trump.

One side effect of our national addiction to Trump’s tweets and other news cycle garbage is that fascinating issues and important debates aren’t getting the attention they deserve. With a rotating crew of your favorite Crooked Media hosts, contributors, and special guests, Crooked Conversations brings Pod Save America’s no-b.s., conversational style to topics in politics, media, culture, sports, and technology that aren’t making headlines but still have a major impact on our world.