Pod Save America co-host Jon Favreau talks to Andy Slavitt, the board chairman of the United States of Care, and Adam Gaffney, an instructor in medicine at Harvard Medical School and secretary of the advocacy organization Physicians for a National Health Program about what it will take to get Medicare for all and what factors need to be considered to get to single payer.

One side effect of our national addiction to Trump’s tweets and other news cycle garbage is that fascinating issues and important debates aren’t getting the attention they deserve. With a rotating crew of your favorite Crooked Media hosts, contributors, and special guests, Crooked Conversations brings Pod Save America’s no-b.s., conversational style to topics in politics, media, culture, sports, and technology that aren’t making headlines but still have a major impact on our world.