And this isn’t just about figuring out why some dude in Michigan voted for Trump. Though that’s part of it. We should figure that out. It’s about actually exploring division instead of putting it in side-by-side boxes on television, whether it’s a conversation about politics or religion, race or gender, or belief itself. Ana has accrued a bunch of unlikely friends in politics, and she has strong disagreements with those friends. So why not have a civilized, thoughtful conversation (with some jokes and maybe the occasional “oh come on” because these are important issues and people feel strongly) and see what happens?
Arjun Singh Sethi, author of American Hate: Survivors Speak Out, joins Ana on this week’s pod. Over the course of their conversation, Arjun explained why he wrote the book: to center the perspectives of hate survivors, who live with the everyday hate not just of Trump’s America, but that -- shocker -- has always been present in American life.
This week, Ana talked with Sarah Jones, a staff writer for The New Republic who covers social inequality and religion. Ana wanted to have Sarah on the show after learning about her story -- Sarah grew up homeschooled in a Christian fundamentalist family and went to a Christian college before becoming an activist for secular causes and covering religion. That upbringing meant she had a very secluded childhood in a rural area near the Cherokee National Forest, rarely leaving the house to do much other than going to church.
This week, Ana talked with Teresa P Mateus, trauma specialist, professor, and founder of The Mystic Soul Project. Their conversation began with Ana asking Teresa how she became a trauma specialist. She was led to the work through her own experience as a trauma survivor, as many people are.
This week, Ana sat down with Amy Chozick, New York Times writer at large and the author of the new book Chasing Hillary. Over the course of a wide-ranging conversation, they dove into some of the threads within Amy’s book that the national political press has overlooked. In addition to examining the Hillary that Amy felt voters often didn’t see, they discussed the lessons learned by Amy and the press corps writ large from the 2016 election, and how that press corps can win people’s trust back.