And this isn’t just about figuring out why some dude in Michigan voted for Trump. Though that’s part of it. We should figure that out. It’s about actually exploring division instead of putting it in side-by-side boxes on television, whether it’s a conversation about politics or religion, race or gender, or belief itself. Ana has accrued a bunch of unlikely friends in politics, and she has strong disagreements with those friends. So why not have a civilized, thoughtful conversation (with some jokes and maybe the occasional “oh come on” because these are important issues and people feel strongly) and see what happens?
Ana sits down with Michael Arceneaux, author of the New York Times bestseller I Can’t Date Jesus. Their conversation explores Michael’s experience as a queer black man, how it is inherently political, and what that means in his daily life. They also discuss representation, and what it takes for a black person to succeed in traditional media-- namely an ability to speak to white people.
Ana checks back in with Rick Wilson to do something different: answer questions from listeners. Their wide-ranging conversation touches on all topics from the recent governor's races in Florida and Georgia, to how/when Never Trumpers would vote for Democrats, and finally, to their personal memories of John McCain.