Pro Publica healthcare reporter Caroline Chen joins us to talk about her experience navigating that minefiled, where public health and climate intersect, what happened when all the climate journalists got reassigned to Covid, how to better integrate the ways we talk about health and climate, and a whole lot more. Reading List: A Tiny Number of People Will Be Hospitalized Despite Being Vaccinated. We Have to Learn Why. How Inequity Gets Built Into America’s Vaccination System Vaccinating Black Americans Is Essential. Key States Aren’t Doing the Work to Combat Hesitancy How Operation Warp Speed Created Vaccination Chaos