Tommy talks with foreign policy expert Kelly Magsamen about Trump’s strikes on Syria’s chemical weapons site, his lack of a broader strategy, and her attempt to “red team” the policy options during the Obama administration. Then they talk about CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s trip to North Korea.

Show Notes:

• Washington Post: CIA Director Pompeo met with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un over Easter weekend
• Washington Post: Russia voices support for Syria chemical probe
• The Atlantic: The Humbling of Mike Pompeo
• NPR: Why No World Power Really Wants To Topple Syria’s Assad
• Vox: In his second year, Donald Trump is building a more extreme, confrontational presidency
• New York Times: John Bolton Has ‘No Moderating Tendencies’
• New York Mag: 8 Takeaways From Trump Agreeing to Meet Kim Jong-un
• Kelly Magsamen: The United States Needs a Coherent Strategy on Syria
• Kelly Magsamen: What Trump’s Reshuffling of the National Security Council Means

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