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“See, When You Do Jokery…” (with Joe Manganiello)

Ira, Louis, and guest co-host Matt Rogers discuss the controversy surrounding JOKER and how the film stands in comic book movie canon, Ellen’s backlash for befriending George W. Bush, and Pitchfork’s 200 Best Songs of the 2010s list. Plus, Joe Manganiello joins to talk about being objectified and why we should revisit True Blood.