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Political commentator David Pakman joins the show to talk with Dan about the war brewing on the right between Trump and the MAGA influencers who once supported him. The two discuss whether this MAGA revolt is actually real, Trump’s announcement that the Strait of Hormuz has reopened, and whether the White House’s pivot back to the economy is their best message to win the midterms. Then, Dan asks David how the media ecosystem has changed over his career — and what it’ll take for Democrats to build a media ecosystem that rivals the one built by the right.

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